Chrysis valesiana perezi Mocsary, 1889 ♀, Spain

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Chrysis valesiana perezi Mocsary, 1889 ♀, Spain

Postby Alex » 06 Jul 2014 12:12

I'm currently doing some fieldwork in Spain, and we came across this chrysidid. At first I was convinced by the habitus and colouration that it was a Pseudospinolia sp., but now looking at it more carefully it seems to be a Chrysis sp., as the radial vien is long and there are four apical teeth on tergum 3. Its a female if its not clear from the pictures.

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Re: Chrysidini from Spain

Postby Alex » 06 Jul 2014 14:37

After looking around a bit in the litterature I have brought with me, the species Chrysis valesiana Frey-Gessner, 1887 seem to be a good match? I'm at least quite sure its a graelsii-group species, but I could be wrong.
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Re: Chrysidini from Spain

Postby anillus » 06 Jul 2014 19:36

My specimens of Chrysis valesiana are different .... :roll:

.....why not succinta group?

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Re: Chrysidini from Spain

Postby Alex » 06 Jul 2014 22:55

Thanks! I'll have to continue looking then :)

The apical teeth seems to me much too wide set, sharp and well developed, and the transverse frontal carina too distinct for the succincta-group, but I have little experience with the continental fauna - we only got bicolor and illigeri up in Sweden... It seemed to me to match well with the graelsii-group from what I read, but I must confess I have never encountered it before. I will keep searching for a better match!

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Re: Chrysidini from Spain

Postby anillus » 07 Jul 2014 00:05

You're probably right. :ok:

The apical teeth and the transverse frontal carina are very similar to Chrysis valesiana but the coloring I was "surprised". :? :shock: :?

I open a new topic with a picture of a Chrysis valesiana. :D

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Re: Chrysidini from Spain

Postby Alex » 07 Jul 2014 18:29

Thanks for taking your time and posting the picture!
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Re: Chrysidini from Spain

Postby Euchroeus » 08 Jul 2014 08:00

Ciao Alex,

where are you in Spain? I suppose that you are in Southern part ...
did you collect other Chrysidids?

This one is Chrysis perezi Mocsáry or valesiana perezi (sensu Linsenmaier).
It's a beautiful taxon.

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Re: Chrysidini from Spain

Postby anillus » 08 Jul 2014 09:12

I never would have said. :o
Even in this case, the coloring is very different compared to Sicilian specimens.
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Re: Chrysidini from Spain

Postby Euchroeus » 08 Jul 2014 09:15

Right!

That's why Sicilian specimens are truly graelsii and not perezi :D
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Re: Chrysis valesiana perezi Mocsary, 1889 ♀, Spain

Postby Alex » 09 Jul 2014 18:44

Thank you for the determination Paolo! Changed the title of the post, would you say the "subspecies/variant" interpretation of this taxon is correct, or do you consider it as a valid species on its own?

Yes, I'm doing some fieldwork for my master's here in Soria, Spain. I have some opportunities of collecting Chrysididae for my own collection every now and then :) So many nice species here, Parnopes grandior (seen mating, very cool!), Chrysis pyrophana, C. mysticalis, C. semicincta, Hedychridium incrassatum etc. Will have a lot of new species groups in my collection when i return home, determining them to species level will be hard though, I will perhaps be posting a lot here this autumn if I have the time!

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