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Re: Chrysidids from Spain, July 2014

PostPosted: 12 Nov 2017 01:06
by Alex
I'm pretty sure this is Chrysis subsinuata, but there doesn't seem to be any pictures of this species online, so I thought I'd take some.
Less sure about which subspecies, as Linsenmaier 1959 only gives relative characters in how to distinguish them.. it should be the nominate subspecies or unifasciata, Hoffman 1937, as fallax Mocsary, 1889 is an eastern taxon.

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Hi Alex,
Thanks for presenting and sharing those "Character reference"-pictures of all these beauty specimen.
In addition to Paulo's explainations I learn a lot!
All the best Paul


Thank you, good to hear the pictures are useful to someone, "character reference"-pictures, or sometimes even pictures at all, of chrysidids can be hard to find. Although Paolo's recent publication spree on museum types are an amazing resource!

Actually, we should make an database of which species there are pictures of, so its easy to find them for comparisons. Especially of type specimens of course, but also other, confirmed species wouldnt hurt - as long as they are labeled as such.

Re: Chrysidids from Spain, July 2014

PostPosted: 13 Nov 2017 15:22
by Alex
A medium sized Hedychridium sp., which I cannot place, beyond that its close to H. anale. Its not H. anale or H. elegantulum, as I have those species collected from the same area, and the combination of finely puncated face and metallic tibia should rule them out.

Have I missed something common again, perhaps something with another colour in the Iberian peninsula that Linsenmaier fails to mention?

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Re: Chrysidids from Spain, July 2014

PostPosted: 21 Nov 2017 02:09
by Alex
Since I had the list already made, I might as well post it here: Chrysidid material from my field work Spain 2014, there are of course large questionmarks for maybe 50% of my identifications still, so I'll be taking pictures for a long while yet ;)

If there's anything "odd", some species in particular that you want me to image or such, just say :ok:


--Cleptinae:
CLeptes aerosus 1 [imaged]


--Chrysidinae:
----Chrysidini:


Chrysidea persica 1
Chrysidea pumila disclusa 2

Chrysis analis 5
Chrysis andradei 1 [imaged]
Chrysis bidentata 2
Chrysis bihamata 1 [imaged]
Chrysis cerastes 1
Chrysis chrysoprasina 3
Chrysis comparata 4
Chrysis corusca 1
Chrysis gracillima aurofacies  3
Chrysis gribodoi 2
Chrysis grohmanni 1 [imaged]
Chrysis hydropica 1
Chrysis ignita-group 1
Chrysis integra 3
Chrysis interjecta 1
Chrysis merceti 1 [imaged]
Chrysis mixta 1
Chrysis mixta ? 1
Chrysis mysticalis 3
Chrysis mysticalis ? 1
Chrysis peninsularis 12 [imaged]
Chrysis perezi? 4
Chrysis provenceana 1
Chrysis pulchella 3 [imaged]
Chrysis pulcherrima 3
Chrysis pulcherrima c.f.? 3
Chrysis pyrophana 11
Chrysis rutilans 1
Chrysis semicincta 5 [imaged]
Chrysis sexdentata 3
Chrysis splendidula 2
Chrysis subsinuata 1 [imaged]
Chrysis taczanovskii 1
Chrysis tristicula 9
Chrysis tristicula? 1
Chrysis varidens 2 [imaged]

Chrysura austriaca 3
Chrysura rufiventris 1

Euchroeus limbatus dusmeti 2 [imaged]

Parnopes grandior 3 [imaged]

Trichrysis cyanea 2


----Elampini:


Hedychridium anale 3
Hedychridium buyssoni 3
Hedychridium carmelitanum 1
Hedychridium elegantulum 1
Hedychridium flavipes 3
Hedychridium incrassatum 13
Hedychridium monochroum 1 [imaged]
Hedychridium scutellare 1
Hedychridium subroseum 1
Hedychridium vachali 2 [imaged]
Hedychridium -indet 13

Hedychrum longicolle 18
Hedychrum nobile 1
Hedychrum rutilans 9
Hedychrum -indet 6

Holopyga gorgozae 1
Holopyga ignicollis 2
Holopyga -indet 12

Philoctetes dusmeti 1 [imaged]
Philoctetes micans 3 [imaged]

Pseudomalus pusillus 1
Pseudomalus -indet 3

In total some >60 identified species, with maybe 5-10 more in the "-indet" material

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Re: Chrysidids from Spain, July 2014

PostPosted: 07 Dec 2017 12:52
by Paul
Hi Alex,

good work and marvellous pics! :ok:

All the best Paul

Re: Chrysidids from Spain, July 2014

PostPosted: 07 Dec 2017 23:20
by Euchroeus
Hi Alex,

fantastic list :slurp:

I only observe:

1) Chrysis bidentata is surely something else, very likely Chrysis consanguinea or another similar species in this group.

2) instead of Chrysidea persica and C. pumila disclusa you have Chrysidea pumila and C. disclusa.

Ciao!
Paolo

Re: Chrysidids from Spain, July 2014

PostPosted: 11 Dec 2017 22:30
by Alex
Thanks! :)

Paolo: Thanks for clearing up some things, especially the Chrysidea-mess, I thought I had it figured out after pouring over papers but apparently not.

I did realise it probably wasnt C. bidentata, as apparently its a synonym of C. viridula? The viridula-group is a not a easy thing to sort out, there's still some morphospecies left that I cant place.

Do you have any inkling what the Hedychridium species might be? Realised that I forgot to image the sternites , S-II is faintly metallic on each lateral half, but not medially connected. Otherwise totally dark brown/black

Re: Chrysidids from Spain, July 2014

PostPosted: 14 Mar 2018 16:51
by Alex
As there doesnt seem to be any good pictures online of Chrysis cerastes I thought I'd take some of my specimen. Looked up the figures in Linsenmaier 1959 and now I'm a bit uncertain, the head seems a bit broad and the apical rim too short? But maybe its within the variation of the species?

Edit: Compared it to the image in Crisidi della Valle d'Aosta, it looks much more like my specimen, so I suppose it must be cerastes


Re: Chrysidids from Spain, July 2014

PostPosted: 15 Mar 2018 00:24
by Euchroeus
:ok:

:beer:

Re: Chrysidids from Spain, July 2014

PostPosted: 17 Mar 2018 10:18
by Paul
well done! :)

Re: Chrysidids from Spain, July 2014

PostPosted: 30 Mar 2018 13:48
by Alex
Thank you Paolo and Paul! :beer:

Bought a cheap old microscope lens for doing high magnification stuff, tried it out on a Chrysis chrysoprasina, Förster 1835 genital capsule, and imaged the specimen while I was at it as it was clean and ok-ish prepared.