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First observation in Portugal: Chrysura austriaca!

PostPosted: 12 Nov 2016 14:52
by Grijzezeehond
Is this a Chrysis ignita?

Regards,
Kurt

Re: Another Chrysis from North-Portugal

PostPosted: 12 Nov 2016 14:54
by Grijzezeehond
I can only add one attachment at a time, don't know why.
Here's the second photo.
K

Re: Another Chrysis from North-Portugal

PostPosted: 12 Nov 2016 14:55
by Grijzezeehond
Third one.
K

Re: Another Chrysis from North-Portugal

PostPosted: 12 Nov 2016 15:56
by Alex
the Chrysis ignita group always have 4 teeth at the tip of the abdomen, this one has none. No teeth "edentate T3" can occur in some Chrysis species, but is more common in Chrysura, and together with the general look I'm confident its the latter genus. Maybe Chrysura austriaca, can you take a photo of the head from the front?

Re: Another Chrysis from North-Portugal

PostPosted: 12 Nov 2016 17:37
by Grijzezeehond
Thanks Alex.
Here's the front.

Regards,
Kurt

Re: Another Chrysidid from North-Portugal (Chrysura)

PostPosted: 12 Nov 2016 18:15
by Alex
Yes, it looks very much like Chrysura austriaca to me, but could conceivably be a closely related species.
Where was the specimen collected, Germany?

Re: Another Chrysidid from North-Portugal (Chrysura)

PostPosted: 12 Nov 2016 18:39
by Grijzezeehond
North of Portugal, as stated in the title ;-)

K

Re: Another Chrysidid from North-Portugal: Chrysura austriac

PostPosted: 01 Dec 2016 11:03
by Euchroeus
Hallo everyone,

yes, it's a Chrysura austriaca (Fabricius)
I think that should be a new record for Portugal, I have to check.

Cheers
Paolo

Re: Another Chrysidid from North-Portugal: Chrysura austriac

PostPosted: 01 Dec 2016 15:25
by Ian Cross
Hi Kurt

Great find. It does seem to be a new species for Portugal. We are compiling a list of the Portuguese fauna - do you have details of the record: location, date, any other information?

Ian

Re: Another Chrysidid from North-Portugal: Chrysura austriac

PostPosted: 18 Jan 2017 00:51
by Grijzezeehond
That's great news! I'm just an amateur, having fun with taking pictures of Aculeata. It's my second great find apparently, because I also found and collected the first Portugese Chrysis taczanovskii since 1947 on the same spot.
Here are the details: http://observado.org/waarneming/view/126738517#
If you'll write an article on this species, let me know, it would mean a lot to me.

Kurt