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A identificare

Postby AngelMM » 17 May 2020 19:33

Buona sera,
Thank you for accepting me, this is my first message on the forum. Hope everybody is good there on these sad times of coronavirus.
I founded this beauty rounding and getting into an Osmia nest (probably O. latreillei). I have not too much idea about Chrysididae and don't know if there are a good keys I could use to get to it, so it could be great if somebody can help with it.
It's from Alicante province, Spain, about 500m over sea level, in an almond trees orchard.
Begin of March, 2020, just before the coronavirus hit here and got stuck all at home

Grazie mille



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Re: A identificare

Postby Euchroeus » 20 May 2020 22:11

:welcome: Angel!

Thanks for your pictures.
In Spain there's a volume of Fauna Iberica dedicated to Chrysididae, volume 6 by Elvira Mingo.

Your specimen looks like a Chrysura. However I need some more views.
Do you have other pictures?

All the Best
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Re: A identificare

Postby AngelMM » 23 May 2020 11:09

Thank you so much Paolo,
I have these other three pictures on the same day on the same place (almost same time) but I cannot be completely 100% sure it's the same specimen. Seems to be, but I cannot really say so.







Thank you about the idea of Fauna Iberica, one more thing to the wishes list...
Congratulations for this good website
Thank you and best regards
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Re: A identificare

Postby jeromec » 26 May 2020 22:07

Hi chrysidid-fans :wohow: ,

I think it is a Chrysura of radians species group : propodeum is gibbous with a basal depression (I have no depression in my specimens of Chrysura simplex species groups).

But C. radians contains several species (>5 in France), also maybe more in Spain !

But I think we can say : it is not the species with angulate propodeum (exit refulgens, rufiventris & trimaculata).
Chrysura hirsuta is a mountain & septentrional species, and it has no depression on the basis of the propodeum.
I don't know Chrysura varicornis & sulcata (but I remember they have an angulate propodeum, no ?).

But we need others pictures :D
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Re: A identificare

Postby AngelMM » 12 Jun 2020 20:40

Hi Jerome !
Thank you so much to both about the ideas. From Fauna Iberica web page (Paolo give me the idea), this is the species list; well I don´t know which of these belong to the C. radians group, the total Iberian list is this:
Chrysura austriaca
Chrysura cuprea
Chrysura dichroa
Chrysura hybrida
Chrysura isabella
Chrysura lais
Chrysura oraniensis
Chrysura purpureifrons

Chrysura radians
Chrysura refulgens
Chrysura rufiventris
Chrysura simplex
Chrysura sulcata
Chrysura varicornis

If we can discard C. refulgens, C. rufiventris, C. simplex, C.surcata and C.varicornis, maybe there are not too much possibilities !!
I am sorry I have no more pictures of this. Next time maybe !
Just in case you are interested, this is the female host Osmia cf. latreillei who was nesting where I found the Chrysura:
https://www.biodiversidadvirtual.org/in ... 87566.html

Thank you so much
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