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Hi,

Me again with another request for an identification .
This is the only time when I have collected a bigger number of specimens (but only this species), 15 specimens collected (all males ? ). All where collected on flowers of Lepidium draba.

Collected in south-east of Romania, close to the coast of Black Sea (Romania: Dobrodja: Constanta: near Neptun, Leg. Cosmin O. Manci).

Is possible to have a full name?

A bigger photo here.

Pseudospinolia uniformis (Dahlbom, 1854).

Ma:

1) la capsula genitale non corrisponde a quella della specie. Per favore controlla che sia ben pulita, poi verifica con la capsula genitale di qualche altro esemplare e prova a rifotografarla meglio

2) la data di raccolta è curiosa. Probabilmente si tratta di una seconda schiusa, perché è una specie tipicamente primaverile, che si trova tra aprile e maggio, raramente a giugno, la sua schiusa a fine luglio è veramente strana, oppure l'hai raccolta in un altro periodo e hai messo le foto solo oggi?

Puoi confrontare la foto della capsula genitale con il disegno dato da Linsenmaier (1959) si trova sotto il nome Euchroeus (Pseudospinolia) uniformis (fig. 205).

Aspetto una tua analisi!
Ciao
Paolo

Euchroeus wrote::o

Pseudospinolia uniformis (Dahlbom, 1854).

Ma:

1) la capsula genitale non corrisponde a quella della specie. Per favore controlla che sia ben pulita, poi verifica con la capsula genitale di qualche altro esemplare e prova a rifotografarla meglio

also to me the one from the paper is completely different.
the genitalia is extremely small, the smallest I have seen until now in the few chrysididae that I have, so is immpossible for me to take better photos in conditions from here.

here is an illustration I have made after one, through the binocular... I have six males extracted (and another 9 in tubes), all six have the same genitalia.

Euchroeus wrote:2) la data di raccolta è curiosa. Probabilmente si tratta di una seconda schiusa, perché è una specie tipicamente primaverile, che si trova tra aprile e maggio, raramente a giugno, la sua schiusa a fine luglio è veramente strana, oppure l'hai raccolta in un altro periodo e hai messo le foto solo oggi?

Puoi confrontare la foto della capsula genitale con il disegno dato da Linsenmaier (1959) si trova sotto il nome Euchroeus (Pseudospinolia) uniformis (fig. 205).

Aspetto una tua analisi!
Ciao
Paolo

upps, forget to put the date... is 14.may.2011.
just now I have taken the specimens out from the freezer and prepared.

if you want I will keep for you 3 specimens (back in the freezer ???), 3 will go to Daniele Baiochi and 3 to Francesco Izzillo.

Hope this will help to have a name.

Grazie,

cosmln wrote:also to me the one from the paper is completely different.
the genitalia is extremely small, the smallest I have seen until now in the few chrysididae that I have, so is immpossible for me to take better photos in conditions from here.

here is an illustration I have made after one, through the binocular... I have six males extracted (and another 9 in tubes), all six have the same genitalia.

Yes, I just compared your perfect picture with the genital capsulae of my Italian and Spanish specimens, and your genital capsula looks very different. I cannot exclude that this is a new species!

cosmln wrote: upps, forget to put the date... is 14.may.2011.
just now I have taken the specimens out from the freezer and prepared.
if you want I will keep for you 3 specimens (back in the freezer ???), 3 will go to Daniele Baiochi and 3 to Francesco Izzillo.
Hope this will help to have a name.
Grazie,

If you can send me a couple of these males it would be great. Only the direct examination could confirm this analysis. Please I prefer at least one specimen not prepared (I would like to prepare the internal sternites and tergites as well).


Paolo

Complimenti per la raccolta Cosmin

anillus wrote:Complimenti per la raccolta Cosmin

Grazie Andrea,

Monday some specimen will go in direction of Paolo and hope to resolve the mystery as soon as possible

cosmln wrote:

anillus wrote:Complimenti per la raccolta Cosmin

Grazie Andrea,

Monday some specimen will go in direction of Paolo and hope to resolve the mystery as soon as possible

Attendiamo gli sviluppi con curiosità

Any news about these beauts?

Hi everyone.

No, I never received the specimens.

I know that Cosmin is going to be merried this months, so probably he didn't have time to send it.

Waiting for his replay ... and return

Ciao
Paolo

Hi to all,

the parcel is prepared but right now I'm in a big problems with money and time too.
not this month but almost, in 2 october is the wedding (http://www.gabriela-si-cosmin.wedsite.com/) and in 28 september i have to present my PhD thesys in department.

I hope this days to receive some money and after that the parcel will leave.

Cosmin