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Bonjour
J'ai observé cette Elampus le 7 juillet 2018 au soir dans mon jardin à Sainte Geneviève des bois en Essonne France
J'ai 4 photos sur Flick avec exifs, prises au nikon D7200, nikon 105 macro + tube allonge 32MM
Je n'ai pas d'expertise, mais un expert usager de Flickr el.gritche, m'a identifié cette Elampus et suggère une panzeri et m'à recommandé de poster ici pour avis
J'estime la taille entre 4 et 6 mm hors antennes
EDIT I reinsert the image as the links seems broken





[/url]DSC_2728_DxO - Elampus by Berzou, sur Flickr

[/url]DSC_2729_DxO - Elampus by Berzou, sur Flickr

[/url]DSC_2757_DxO - Elampus - identification detail by Berzou, sur Flickr

[/url]DSC_2714_DxO - Elampus by Berzou, sur Flickr
Cordialement
Berzou

Bonjour, je vous informe que pour faire avancer le sujet, j'ai posté le même sujet sur chasseurs d'image https://www.chassimages.com/forum/index.php/topic,286570.msg6835467.html#msg6835467
et sur insect.org https://www.insecte.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=185889&p=1486525#p1486525

ceci pour vous permettre de prendre en considération les arguments évoqués sur ces forums.
nous espérons avoir des avis d'experts sur l'identification de cette Elampus et sur les arguments évoqués.

cordialement
Berzou

Dear Berzou

Thanks for your beautiful pictures!

At first sight your specimens looks like an Elampus panzeri (Fabricius), however I cannot see some diagnostic features, for example the shape of the anal plate in posterior view.
Do you have other pictures of this specimen?

You can see here some diagnostic characters taken from Móczár (1964) and Paukkunen et al. (2015), which are not clearly visible from your pictures



Let me know
All the Best
Paolo

Thank you for your comment Paolo, I have no additional Picture, sorry.
Can you review the possible species? And check other criteria ?
Did you review the comments given on Chasseurs d'image an on insect.org ?
I can (try to) translate for you if useful

Here is proposed à criteria on Tergite T3
https://www.chassimages.com/forum/index.php?topic=286570.msg6836346#msg6836346

And here the postscutellum
https://www.chassimages.com/forum/index.php/topic,286570.msg6836803.html#msg6836803

PS I am not an expert, I Just reuse the comments recieved ... Feel free to review According to your expertise.
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Berzou

Dear Berzou,

thanks for your message,
actually the shape of the metanotal lamella is large and similar in both species. Even larger in Elampus foveatus, as in your case. Therefore without examination of the specimen I cannot be sure 100%.

However, if not for scientific purpose, you can name your specimen as Elampus panzeri on the web.

Cheers!
Paolo

Thank you Paolo

No specific purpose ,I Just want to contribute with my magical discoveries in the garden...